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I am looking for a accurate source to determine correct marking methods (Engraved or Stamped) for The Kregsmarine Radom VIS 35

To the best of my knowledge they were engraved with a pantograph machine. Look at the marking with a magnifying glass to see if it has the characteristic 'chatter' from the engraving bit, and rounded ends where it stops engraving. The bit is much like that used by a dentist.

I know it's been a while since the original post, but thought this pic might help others curious about what the Eagle M marking should look like. The serial number is in the 8xxx range and does not have a letter prefix. No lanyard loop. There is an 'N' engraved on the front of the grip but no other numbers. Holster is marked P35 w/ other stampings.

can you post closer picture of the stamp

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Now that'd be the pinnacle of my dreams.. How many were KM contract, may I ask?
Nice pistol!
Lev

That Radom is marked with the 'WaA77' This is a German Army test proof and unlikely kreigsmarine.
Is this a verified variation? I was not aware of any Radoms going to the Kreigsmarine?
Bob

This is a late-war production (c. 1944-1945) Radom pistol, correct? My recollection is that KM property markings ceased around 1941, so even if this pistol were procured by the KM, I would not expect it to have KM property markings applied at such a late date in the war.

I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge about this variant, it's well documented and has been known for a long time as legitimate. You should grab Jan Still's 'Axis Pistols' book, there is even a list of known Navy property numbers listed. According to the info, this pistol pictured falls into the known range of Kriegsmarine marked pistols and appears original to me.

Thanks, Mike. I'll pull Axis Pistols and take a look tonight after I get the kids to bed.

Shame on me. I did go through Jan's book this morning before posting but was looking in the wrong section.
Jan states about 1000 were marked out of the first 14,000 occupation Radoms produced.
Hey.. here to learn as well as to contribute
Bob

Here are some other pics of my Radom. I've tried to get a better close ups of the Eagle M..incandescent lighting isn't helping, I'll try tomorrow with natural sunlight & my wife's camera. All the numbers match..

Beautiful shooter,
Love these pistols, I just picked one up over here in the land of OZ the other day .. Cheers for sharing

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Gustav Kloth,
Looking for his Ehrenpokal.

Hi, good radom! I had never seen radom with the mark of Marine! The Radom produced at the beginning of the German occupation also had the slide markings in the center, then the message is always moved back. Is very rare the serial number without letter . I have a radom with serial number very close to your pistol!

Sorry the Radom that is shown here is not a late war production. It looks more like a 1940 or 1941. I'm not 100% convinced that a real KM. The Radom banner is not sharp and crisp. I do not have such a sloppy Radom banner on any of my Radoms looks un even. Far to many were KM marked that in the late 70-80's. I remember a fellow at a gun show had 15 so called KM Radoms not one was original. About 90 % of all oroigianl KM went down wth the ship/subs
Look at the crisp banner posted, and a K block late war issued

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After looking at the Radom photos again IMHO. It's a fake. Somebody went to a lot of trouble to make a fake KM. The KM insignia is to big and to blurry anlong with the rest of the banner. Hope you did pay too much or you can recoup your money. I would love to get my hand on a real KM. This one would not be found in my collection

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WE SPEND LOTS OF MONEY ON OUR HOBBY. SPEND A FEW MORE DOLLARS TO PRESERVE HISTORY!